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ACES Maya ignores texture import settings

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Message 1 of 27
hyperviktor
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ACES Maya ignores texture import settings

When I connect a texture map to aiStandard shader, no matter what I use as the input color space there is no effect in the render.


I have ACES 1.2 installed, OCIO config loaded etc. yet I still have a number of things that don't seem to work as expected.


Any help ?

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Message 2 of 27
Chtenelis
in reply to: hyperviktor

You need to remake the tx file everytime you change the input colorspace.

Message 3 of 27
hyperviktor
in reply to: hyperviktor

For testing I don't use .tx files as takes ages to generate,I use the original .jpg with color profile assigned within aiImage and I have .tx generation turned off , although I did tests with .tx and didn't make any difference.

Message 4 of 27
lee_griggs
in reply to: hyperviktor

Hi Hyper, I presume you have the Color Space set to Utility - sRGB texture?

Once the .tx files are generated you should see speed improvements. Here are some of the benefits of using .tx files.

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Lee Griggs
Arnold rendering specialist
AUTODESK
Message 5 of 27
hyperviktor
in reply to: lee_griggs

Are you deliberately trying to be unhelpful ? We do use .tx textures in production and I'm well aware of the benefits , speed improvements etc. but in this case it's irrelevant.


My issue has nothing to do with .tx textures, I have a problem with ACES not doing what it should do. Do you have any comments on that ?

Message 6 of 27
Stephen.Blair
in reply to: hyperviktor

If you use a tx file for your test, then we can check it with oiiotool -v --info, and see what color conversion was applied. So...change the color space on the image node, render and the tx is updated, check the tx and see what color-convert was used.




// Stephen Blair
// Arnold Renderer Support
Message 7 of 27
lee_griggs
in reply to: hyperviktor

Render the shader ball scene here and if it doesn't match, upload the results.

Lee Griggs
Arnold rendering specialist
AUTODESK
Message 8 of 27
hyperviktor
in reply to: Stephen.Blair

I'm using 'Utility - sRGB - Texture' for color inputs, 'Utility - Raw' for data.

My problem is that in my tests changing the texture's color space does not result a change in the render.

Message 9 of 27
hyperviktor
in reply to: lee_griggs

First thing I got was a warning that your OCIO cinfig is missing , but I'm using ACES 1.2 anyways so I guess I just point the project to that file.

Message 10 of 27
hyperviktor
in reply to: lee_griggs

Looks different, hre's the render and the converted .tx texture fileshaderball.jpgball.zip

Message 11 of 27
hyperviktor
in reply to: hyperviktor

Same problem - regardless what input color space I select in the aiImage, the render result stays the same.

Message 12 of 27
Stephen.Blair
in reply to: hyperviktor

Changing the color space on an aiImage forces an update of the tx, and the tx will have a different color-convert applied. You should see the maketx in the console log, the tx file should be updated, and the new tx used for the render (maybe you need to force update?)

image-color-space.png

maya-console-maketx.png




// Stephen Blair
// Arnold Renderer Support
Message 13 of 27
hyperviktor
in reply to: Stephen.Blair

Nothing wrong with the .tx converter, I deleted the original .tx before rendering so it was generated during rendertime.

Message 14 of 27
hyperviktor
in reply to: Stephen.Blair

Here's what the imported .exr looks like in my hypershade editor.texture.jpg

Message 15 of 27
hyperviktor
in reply to: Stephen.Blair

Now it looks like this, pretty arbitrary but most importantly - without any changes.texture2.jpg

Message 16 of 27
Stephen.Blair
in reply to: hyperviktor

The Material Viewer doesn't update to the new tx when you change the Color Space, you have to pause and restart the material viewer.

I don't have that problem with Arnold Render View



// Stephen Blair
// Arnold Renderer Support
Message 17 of 27
hyperviktor
in reply to: Stephen.Blair

Again, I'm not using .tx for testing, I skip converting and I apply the color space rules to the texture. It shouldn't make any difference. If you look at the image you can see the texture is .exr


THIS IS THE PROBLEM : My render with ACES looks fucked up - why ?

Message 18 of 27
Stephen.Blair
in reply to: hyperviktor

I tested with exr, no tx. And same thing. I have to pause and restart the Material Viewer to see the update.



// Stephen Blair
// Arnold Renderer Support
Message 19 of 27

At least if you use tx, we can check the tx files to verify that the color conversion was applied.



// Stephen Blair
// Arnold Renderer Support
Message 20 of 27
hyperviktor
in reply to: Stephen.Blair

I did upload it 7 hours ago because you have asked - it's the ball.zip file as it doesn't let upload .exr files

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